You tell us of a friend who submits the same paper for every class every semester. However, that's about as far as things went. are all accredited by CCNE. Next time you try to discredit me by calling me a "dishonest student" and lie about being in service, you should probably remind yourself that someone might call you out. Two of the students never responded. I truly doubt you could handle AMU Lt. I got out of the Coast Guard about 6 months ago and began applying to jobs, all still while working on my degree. My comment is for the individual who is claiming that AMU is not a decent university because its curriculum is "too easy" and also because it is a "for profit" school. B. The sole objective of this safety investigation is the prevention of accidents and incidents of similar nature. I took the lead and was "herding cats" trying to get the others to do the work required. Let me just say that attending this college, seemed more like a joke than AMU. This unwillingness begs us to believe the report because although the poster may not mind you have attended the institution it does not mean that he is not right is highlighting the potential possibility for there to be corruption with this institution. I have bills to pay, as I am sure 95% or more of AMU students fall into the same boat. Not only is the preceding statement poorly written, but what makes the author an expert who can effectively and properly quiz his "friend" on "basic principles?" Like I  said, I have been searching for negative comments about this school  because I do not want to make the same mistake twice when choosing a  college to transfer into. Is getting a degree easy? At the end of the semester you turn around and sell the book back to them, so in essence the price of the book is included in the HIGH tuition. Regional accredidation. Otherwise, we can only logically conclude that you have no idea what you're talking about. The true measure of value is whether people will use their own hard earned money to pay their own tuition, and every year more and more people do just that. I recently completed an MA in Homeland Security with AMU; I have recommended it highly to friends who are pursuing an advanced degree. Whom on earth should we listen to? Instructors were poorly supervised, so they had full freedom of doing whatever they wanted in class. The books are part of the cost of tuition. Looks like the school will be cheating us out of three weeks worth of work so they can fit in the extra work that was overlooked due to their botching of the lesson plan. I laughed before I ever read the next comment, that is the truth. But is AMU right for you? Weeks go by, it's November 5th. The school will assist you in applying for financial aide, but a college education is not free. You've never taken a class. Also, the books are not really free. School, online or offline, are just places to get you interested in what you want to do. Some classes usually require a paper to write. No,  again no college or university will provide you with free room and board. I recall taking "Statistics", I really don't remember the school at which I did it, but it was a resident course...I didn't, and still don't understand one bit of it; and I'm certain that I gave it only minimal effort, and yet to my surprise I got an "A". Sure, you could be the exception and be a great teacher. You have to put time and effort into it. However, many adults are unable to quit their job and go to a typical university. Then there are the alumni - those now making use of their educations; and while some admit reservations, they invariably support the school as legitimate. I don't care where or how they get the information as long as the mission is on time. Their tuition rates were/are well below public state funded universities and there are no "additional fees" like you find with other for profits or brick and mortar schools (no parking, no book fees, no radio/tv station/library fees etc.). During the instructors extended absence an exam due date was nearing for which the instructor was to have provided up with the material needed to study for said exam. As far as the cost of tuition; it is competitive. How can you argue with me and tell me AMU is the same as a tradional university when you are taking an open book test?? It was honestly a joke to me. There is no need to put an "s" on time. On author's comment about "...everyone else here has an agenda so intelligent readers make your own conclusions..." What shocked me the most from the original article (and others have mentioned it as well) saying that papers were reused and the Wikipedia was an accepted source. Since no one here has agreed with this post yet, does anyone out there have any first-hand negative experience with either AMU or APU? I will have to throw up the BS hat on this one also. By working for a profit, an online school will continue to ensure that the material is current and up to date, and that they do what it takes to retain their students. Any student is going to get out of college what they put into it. It is optional. Operations began in January 1993 with the enrollment of 18 graduate students. What the original author has failed to mention is that most professors don't teach, they lecture. The only vested interest is the the time I spent reading the posts. My experience was that online learning presented a different set of challenges than traditional classroom learning did. The main part of the curriculum is not a joke. Meaning does the field I want to get into know and reconize this school in this field. My own experience with other old-time courses is that I learned enough to propel myself through a career, using not only teachings, but also street experience, and further curiosities, to have obtained 48-Citations, 574-Arrests, and awarded Officer of The Year. In most cases, I got more out of the AMU professors than was the case in most of the resident courses because they made themselves available for scheduled online chats, or personally responded to my emails within 24 hours...I cannot claim this for my "traditional" professors, who mostly entered the classrooms, lectured, and left; then held office hours in which, a sometimes pretty significant number of students, would vie for a few minutes of his/her time.LT Max, I'm not going to resort to attacking you, but I find your assertions to be off-base. The on-line discussions give the distance learner a classroom environment where issues can be debated and discussed. In addition, I have never been offered an open book exam that was multiple choice. Edison College used to recognize my Army Flight School education. In addition, they provide undergrads with a book grant ensuring no out-of-pocket expenses there either (and most masters degree courses publish their materials online through the school library so no cost there either). In updating and responding a little further to LTmax (In Not Well Informed), I would like to elaborate on your statement about all test being open book again. My impression when all my research was completed? But,  I chose not to, and put a tremendous amount of time into learning the material. Here are those challenges again! Now, let me put it this way: extensive. I'm not an AMU student or alumni but I do have a traditional 4-year BS degree. If you are a commissioned officer in the US Army, then you obviously wear a black beret. I typically review and study the chapter prior to assessments and then again while answering questions I read the entire section again. It was like a high school class. Bangor:Please elaborate as to the specific challenge to which you are referring. the future. I have many credits on record from multiple institutions of higher learning. I would bet my job that it is not possible. Other Departments here at APUS recognize this fact and even send verification of this fact to the Department of Veterans Affairs on my behalf. So in my opinon the online route is so much easier than the traditional route. I joke with my co-workers that I work, go home cook dinner, clean up from dinner, do homework, watch television for 1-2 hours, go to bed and get up the next day and do it all over again. Tons of out of class homework, and a midterm and final that had a huge weight on your final grade. Hooah - out! At least I am speaking from an informed vantage. I'm Ryam Hcap. Administrative operations needs improvement at AMU/APUS. All universities and colleges are FOR PROFIT in one way or another. All of my professors have covered this basic fact in their syllabus and they grade accordingly. Your post will most likely cause many to lose out on a quality education. Let's hear about that. And the material is full material as well. All I would need to do is show I had an undergraduate degree from basically ANY accredited school and pay the tuition. Department of education has no control over AMU, so the only complaints that can be filed are consumer complaints, because AMU is technically a business. - I never received an excerpt. against a school you have never attended? Salary pre-AMU:             $65k in 2008 My writing is not by any means perfect, but then again I'm not attempting to discredit a college and their incompetence in providing a "quality" education........ one yet,  that I have never attended myself. I really cannot wait until the American Council on education starts reviewing I'm not going to quote anything you have said LtMaxx but give you my opinions and experiences. You don't have to sell them but if you choose to, you can sell them via Ebay, Half.com, privately or back to the bookstore if you choose and they accept them as a buyback. Lt, your clearly well out of those guidelines and to date your very fortunate that AMU has not sought legal actions and damage compensation thus far. a biased instructor attempting to make things complicated and difficult, it is Nothing could be further from the truth. Almost all universities offer online courses. Next you talk about how your friend takes 3 classes during an accelerated 8 week session and will have a 4 year degree in a little over 2 years, but will be done even before that for receiving a ton of questionable credits for being in the military. However, most of the courses at AMU were more difficult than the courses I took at the other schools. Thanks for the update on the Military taking advantage of the public. I would like to point out that the author who is so very critical of his friends ability to write makes some very glaring errors as evidenced in the preceding. In my opinion APU is just as good if not better then my previous colleges. Obtaining accreditation with HLC demonstrates our focus on providing academic excellence and the best possible experience for our students. Their was absolutely no lab work involved in the assignment yet it was and is termed a Lab. I am a member of the International Association of Emergency Management and have published thesis work on securing supply chain. We have shared to a degree similar hardships and you should be proud to see it through. For full disclosure, I am a graduate of AMU and I fortunately did not encounter any of the issues that you have detailed in your report. First, AMU is not a rip off. college which does not demonstrate concerns for their students. They have seminars and conferences all across the country and provide webinars to keep students engaged on the latest technology available today. I think that's enough for now. I would also like to say that this is not my first online school, I have two others, one of which was also a traditional brick and mortar school that I split classes between online and in class depending on schedule. The former and current students who have posted are very well spoken. They have all had a PhD, and one teaches at the Army War College, one has been a history professor for 26 years, and one had been a naval officer for over 20 years prior to his teaching career.LTmax stated, Basically if you put some minimal time, minimal effort and a ton of money you will eventually get a degree. The Commission on Accreditation for Health Informatics and Information Management Education (CAHIIM) strives to provide the public with effective and consistent quality monitoring of academic programs in health information management (HIM) and health informatics (HI) through maintenance of accreditation policies and processes. (Especially Veterans) Because brick and mortar schools allow open book too, along with proctored, and so do non profit as well. Our B.S. Now if AMU knows their MBA courses run a little 'soft' they don't need to press the GMAT issue. The instructors are outstanding and there is nothing at all easy about it. This is my 3rd Academic year at AMU, and I can tell you from experience, that the person who wrote this originally complant is not well informed. Is the school a rip-off? I came to my own conclusions based on the observation of various students enrolled in AMU. resent the fact that you have even suggested, American Military Use an independent tuition calculator, factor in books and selling them back at a reduced rate, then factor in the cost of travel to and from. The HLC accredits degree-granting institutions located in a 19-state region, and is recognized by the U.S. Department of Education (ED), and the Council for Higher Education Accreditation (CHEA). Chances are high that in this, many students will lose point which they worked extremely hard to earn. I have been rejected for secretarial work and have been discriminated against because I am NOT a retiree, or stay at home Mom looking to busy herself. If I were you, I would begin with the rudiments of the English language. The credits you earn there will transfer to I put several hours per day into each class, so I feel that I had an excellent education and gained a high degree of awareness in the area of homeland security. If I were not, I would not be reading this report looking to see if it is worth its salt or worth my time and money. - This is a general statement like "all democrats are anti-Constitutionalist". You see, the federal government will accept a degree in underwater basket weaving and hire you on the spot regardless of the quality of your education. None of the final exams or assignments in the traditional classes even broached the amount of effort required by ANY of the AMU exams or essays. I guess they only got in because the "non-profit" really needed the money. Yes, some quizzes and test are open book. Just another day at AMU, screw the students for their mistakes. The instructors, at least the instructors I have learned from are quite passionate about their field of study. Why have there not been more people coming forward to argue on behalf of his/her tirade. I need not say this is where these supposed friends of yours had better be very loyal and more importantly , have such proof. I would recommend that LT take up the professors' offer and attend just one class at AMU of the professors' choosing and THEN if he still feels the same come back and tell us consumers why. Surely a typo on your part, but certainly hitting the high note of hypocrisy.wait for it, wait for it.AGAIN. In fact that is the easiest part of the school. My professors were, primarily, military officers who grilled me extensively to achieve perfection in my chosen field. That is the difference between a cheap diploma mill and a reputable college. "Classes are about 8 weeks long, with very few being 16 weeks long." "E.  Will you help them with anything else they may require?" In addition to the above, the author claims that no one is responding to his real argument and  merely attacking his grammar in an effort to discredit him. To the original poster: How about you take a few classes and form an educated opinion? I will admit that not every class is perfect; in fact, two of my recent classes were downright, for lack of a better word, bogus. But, AMU is by far one of the cheapest universities I have researched. Now when I transferred to the online program with 8 week terms, I wanted to start out with only taking two classes every 8 weeks as I didn't want to overload myself, expecting a rigorous amount of work. Research is the cornerstone of academia, and I've learned more from research than any lecture I've attended in the whole of my academic career. I can say from first hand experience that I would not say that AMU is a ripoff. This is a slight tangent to the stream of discourse, but I wanted to ask you a few questions about teh credibility of AMU, as a Professor at AMU. One of the other complaints that you seem to suggest is one of the evils of AMU is its open book tests. My only drawback is the delay in graduation caused by the administrative problems. In my experience, no other school comes close to offering me the same education and benefits that I receive from AMU. AMU is notorious for having booths at military trade shows and other locations where they can prey on veterans, so all I can say is beware.As a UOP alumnus, I can tell you that some online universities like UOP know how to get your money but thats about all. But not all of us can gain exceptance in an Ivy league school such as Harvard, Yale or Prencton. Anyone can make an unfounded claim such as his. I am paying thousands of dollars that I do not have, expecting a level of professionalism and customer service equal to the amount that I am paying and here I am being reprimanded like a school kid. Prior to my retirement, I earned my BA in Legal Studies and a MA in Homeland Security from AMU. Your education is your responsibility and if you are going to invest the time and money, make it worthwhile. ALL members of AMU faculty, I have worked with have been extremely supportive. 1) Programs and courses from universities ranging from Penn State to UMASS are available online (see their respective websites). Your questions are friggin retarded! Yes, it can! "However, having seen the coursework done by my peers who go to AMU, I am It has been like this for ALL of my classes for the last three years. Sure, it's only $4-6k a year, but there are ways to make that work. If you are not familiar with the material or understand the formulas you will not make it. He/she has also failed to mention that a lot of the tradtional universities have added an online school system such as Penn State, Georgia Southern (whose got one of the best sports medicine schools), Liberty Univeristy, etc. Honestly, all veterans deserve more than what we get. AMU My current GPA is a 3.978 and even at that, its not enough to gain me Magna c*m Laude or above, tough school to earn honors at. I would have said you have wasted my time here, and maybe my comment will never reach the publication phase for blasting the sites moderator in the first place, but please take the 13 year old, parents basement garbage elsewhere next timeMmm-kay? I need to hear facts. Their programs are outstanding, offering specialty fields for those going into public service... not just the bland "business, health care, communications" bs you normally find with most online schools. And the reason most of us are taking online courses via AMU is that we work 40+ hours a week at the same time we are trying to finish a degree or begin a new one. Specialized accreditation, also called programmatic accreditation, is often connected to professional associations or specific disciplines, evaluating particular units, schools, or programs within an institution. The low cost and flexibility have helped me to attend and I could not be more pleased. As for excerpts of books mine have been full books, which I have had to read every one of them to fully understand the topic. Never belittle someone trying to get an education. I agree that this school may not work out for you, but you never know until you experience it for yourself. It is true your tests for the most part are open book and not proctored, but your overall final degree assessment IS a proctored, closed book exam that covers questions in every subject of your degree program as well as a writing sample. It’s been more than two weeks since 1,816 containers were lost from the deck of the ONE Apus en route Later, referring to the same topic of the paper, you point out that you took a look at his paper and can only describe it as mediocre with grammar, and style errors. Salary post-degree:       $103k in 2012-2013 Who's crazy enough to start this website? I had 2 papers I received a 78% for one 90 and the last one 87 because of simple mistakes on myside. I went to AMU, but no longer wanted the degree I was persuing. Finally, while I am disgusted by people like you who think Facebook is super-duper and everyone is like, totally, like, umm, like, totally, right? I have had to work very hard to get my grades. i have graduated from american military university, i am a recent graduate from amu and it is not a rip off. And of course, if the financial aid department doesn't know what type of aid a student is receiving, one can only conclude that they must not be receiving it at all, as your department wouldn't know to send it to them! discussion; are actually in-depth information or additional historical Im sorry but your post does nothing to warn or deter me from researching this school further, so in your goal you have failed unless you can provide an actual experience. As soon as someone posts a negative review, 10 positive ones will  pop up right away and they all sound the same :" I am a current student and I've been a successful professional for over 20 years" or "I am an instructor at AMU and I've worked in Ivy league schools". Okay, but enough about me. I am looking for people on my team that can react quickly and find the right answer and not a canned answer that was given to me by a professor. I append the link to my papers here, if any want to see how difficult the program can be. This site has provided me with the best feedback on APU yet. same people who made that comment more than likely graduated from a  profit school and is not aware of it. He came into the school with aorund 16 credit hours or so. Because of the availability of classes, that had to be bumped to November. The finger is now pointed at you all! The professors did not allow plagiarism, nor mediocre grammar, nor research from questionable sources, such as Wikipedia. One of my friends, submits the same paper for every class every semester." Also, let's keep in mind that AMU/APU has one of the highest graduation rates among online schools (in the upper 90%) and I know many people who have completed either a degree or certificate program through AMU/APU that live and work in the DC area (one of the wealthiest, most educated areas in the US) and have a great paying career. if you have to look all the answers. Look, I am as skeptical of online schools as the next. "The curriculum is a joke. So if you're some internet white knight who loves APUS and will defend it with every ounce of your honor and don't want to hear about the horrible ineptitude of this school that I had to endure just skip the rest of what I have to say and just click on the NO button. IF indeed this is really a "Lt", why would s/he spend so much time repeatedly attacking the university, the students who have attended or are currently attending and the instructors-what makes it so personal for him/her? And, I've been lucky enough to have had a couple excellent instructors in most of my major courses. Why not. Should we believe your "first hand" response or our unbiased observations of the "friends" i.e. Its rare to encounter someone so biased and with so little information. I have interviewed a number of AMU and APU graduates and have in just about every occasion found them to be very good candidates for our jobs. is to earn a degree from this college because the institution itself caters Let me see you try to take Aero Engr in 3 weeks. based upon historical research rather than just accepting the basic principals First I'd like to say is that any educational experience is what an individual makes of it. In terms of hours, if you add up the time to I didn't want to waste my time finishing my degree at a college that no one would recognize, and I can say that AMU has more than met my expectations for an undergraduate college. I am so surprised that this website accepted a claim from someone that never attended this university. We will consider your posts the "friends" in our example. When I am on duty I have to stay on base. http://www.apus.edu/news-events/news/2011/03-09-11-APU-Partners-with-BAE-Systems-Intelligence-and-Security-Sector-and-Sun-Maid-to-Offer-Enhanced-Online-Education-Opportunities-to-Employees The majority of open book tests consist of essay questions, which require in depth knowledge of the classroom criteria. American Military University is part of the American Public University System. So you advocate considering "the following experiences" but not the endorsement of current or previous students as our comments and recommendations may be biased? From your report, I assume that you believe that your five friends are undeserving of their degree(s) and that their professor(s) are not providing the minimum level of instruction necessary for their courses to be of any value. Most writers at least get the facts straight with what they are writing. With that in mind:  We can say with 100% Belief  that you All Can Most Definitely Still Be Corrupt. It's hard to keep their stories straight. Pursuant to a contractual arrangement, APEI provides certain services for the benefit of APUS, subject to APUS oversight and ultimate authority. I would recomend AMU to anyone willing to invest the time into receiving an excellent education. In my first two 8 week courses I had to complete 5 exams, 4 papers, 6 quizzes and answer approximately 14 discussion forum (essay style) questions between the the two courses. Consider whether it will be better for you to be on a schedule that is essentially made up for you... or a more flexible online schedule that you can fit around your responsibilities. The Appeals Department has given you some fierce competition in the past by never checking their emails, but you trump them every year by responding to every communication directed at you and doing so in a manner which only intensifies the rage felt for you by customers of this for-profit institution. online programs for the DOD next year. If I were an English teacher with an electronic red pen, I'd have a field day marking up the above responses. I would not attend a In each class, I am required to read approximately 150 pages per week, and I write, on average, 15 pages per week. Maybe you are just a psudeo intellectual who needs others like yourself around to feel smart. I personally contacted the Department of Education myself. 2. The author of the report makes the preceding statement then follows with the following, "He gets an "A" every time so I know his paper don't get read. Also, one students experience never accounts for the whole planet in the sense of online schools. The grading has been fair. Its not easy by any means but if you have the will there is always a way. Due to the course workload, I am taking one class at a time. Here, also, I am only talking about one class. 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